What wines compliment the entree

topic posted Thu, December 14, 2006 - 9:08 AM by 
Are there certain wines that will compliment foods a little better than others?

do reds go better with Pasta...
whites with seafood?

and so forth.....

Any info appreciated.
Amy:-)
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  • Ray
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    Re: What wines compliment the entree

    Thu, December 14, 2006 - 11:41 AM
    there are good and better wine matches to food, yes. A bad match is really just not a match.

    It's not the pasta you are matching, it's how you dress(sauce) the pasta. An intense, spicy, veggie and olive oil dress calls for a wine bold enough to handle it, so spicy reds are generally used (though a good german riesling does amazingly well). As you get to more southern Italian style, tomato sauces, lower-acidity, lower-tannin wines make more sense. Essentially, it's more that you want acidic/tannic wines with fattier (oil, butter, cream) sauces, and softer, lower acid wines with acidic (i.e. tomato) sauces. If you really want a Red Wine with a tomato sauce pasta, make it a tomato cream sauce to give the wine something to latch onto.

    Seafoods are traditionally served with very mild (even bland) seasoning. A simple butter/herb preparation of cod and yeah, a white makes sense. But, when I make thyme crusted salmon with balsamic reduction, I like Pinot Noir.

    Of course, most people don't REALLY drink their wine with the food in the way europeans do. We drink som, we eat some, we drink some, we eat some, but WHILE we're eating, we tend to reach for the water glass. For that typical American way to have food and wine, it matters a lot less.
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      Re: What wines compliment the entree

      Thu, December 14, 2006 - 1:16 PM
      Good advice, Ray.

      It also helps to balance the flavors of your meals. If your entree is lacking in salt or sour, the remaining flavors will tend to overload your tongue and your taste buds will become temporarily flooded or skewed. Meat has a savory flavor that your tongue treats almost as if it were sweet. So the meat will skew your taste buds so that the wine will taste bitter if you drink immediately after eating. Your taste buds will suppress the sweet flavors of the wine. Even as dry wine will be affected if it has any fruit flavors.

      We learned this from a couple of the chefs from the Mondavi Institute when they gave a presentation to our class. They performed a little experiment on us. They cooked up some plain beef without seasoning of any kind. We all got bowls of salt and lemon wedges, as well as white and red wines. We tasted the wine and remembered the flavors. Then we ate a piece of meat and immediately tasted the wine again. Suddenly it tastes different. less fruit, more bitter. Then we added some salt and lemon juice to the meat and repeated the tastings. Drink - Eat - Drink again. The wine's flavor didn't not change. We repeated this with fish and asparagus too.

      We also learned that your taste buds will usually return to normal sensitivity after about 30 seconds.

      Once I learned this I started paying attention to the seasonings I used and how they affected the taste of the wine. More than once I remember pairing up the right wine with the right meal and wondering why the wine had gone bad. I don't want to think about how many glasses of wine I may have missed enjoying.
      • Ray
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        Re: What wines compliment the entree

        Thu, December 14, 2006 - 3:20 PM
        oh, excellent point. Seasoning right is critical, I'm just so used to it by now I don't even think about it. I've also found it's generally much better to salt at the start of cooking than later. You end up using less salt as it has more time to bring out flavors. If you omit altogether and figure people can salt at the table, they'll have to add a lot more.

        and the 30 second part is what I was getting at. Most Americans don't eat the food and drink the wine together, they stop and talk, and the wine ends up standing as its own dish(well, a cocktail), so the palate has time to reset.
        • Re: What wines compliment the entree

          Thu, December 21, 2006 - 2:02 AM
          The best book I have found is Pairing Wine and food A Handbook for All Cuisines by Linda Johnson Bell

          I love it!

          M~
          • Ray
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            Re: What wines compliment the entree

            Fri, December 22, 2006 - 12:18 AM
            I just realized I forgot to mention my favorite way to match the wine to the food. I don't. :)

            What I *REALLY* love to do, is match the food to the wine. The wine's already in the bottle, so you're limited to selecting from a preset set of flavors. The food, on the other hand, is made just prior to dining, so there's plenty of time to adjust the dish to the wine being served. If I've got a nice bottle of Bordeaux, then classic foods like beef and lamb with more subtle traditional seasonings will match wonderfully to the rich earthy complexity and red fruit character. If I've got a great California Cab, the ripeness calls for a dish that's a little bolder too, so a touch of mediteranean spice on that same beef or lamb can play off that fruitiness. I can certainly find a wine that'll work if I'm invited to dinner, but it's a lot of fun to bring a potluck dish knowing what the host is pouring.

            of course, I'm in California. There are about 3 months a year when a Bourgogne Rose (Pinot Noir based dry pink wine from Burgundy) isn't great with pretty much anything being served, mostly because it's cold right now and a heartier red is more comforting. :)

            Then again, there's always Champagne. I haven't found too many folks who complain when I pop some open, ever. :)

            That reminds me, it's about time I start deciding which holiday parties I am actually going to (and what to bring)...